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Giving Done Right

Giving Done Right

From the Center for Effective Philanthropy (CEP), Giving Done Right is the show with everything you need to know to make an impact with your charitable giving. Whether you’re donating a few hundred dollars a year, a few thousand, or a few million, you might find yourself wondering: Where should I give? How do I know which nonprofits are effective? How do I know if I’m really making a difference with my donation? Join hosts Phil Buchanan and Grace Nicolette as they welcome leaders and experts from throughout the nonprofit sector to answer philanthropy’s burning questions and bust some myths that have long plagued donors and nonprofits alike. In a time when effective giving is especially crucial, Giving Done Right cuts through the noise and focuses on what you need to know to put your money to work.

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Stephen Heintz, president and CEO of the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, joins Phil and Grace to discuss the results of the 2024 presidential election, whether there is merit to the argument of journalist Ezra Klein and others that certain nonprofit organizations are having an outsized impact on the Democratic party, the role of nonprofits in a functioning democracy, and what it will take to rebuild trust across ideological divides. Stephen offers insight into the long-term, community-based work he believes will help nurture civic engagement and bolster democracy, suggesting both where donors can give as well as actions they can take. He also shares the story behind the Rockefeller Brothers Fund decision to be a leader in the movement to divest from fossil fuels, and the unexpected ripple effects that created.


Additional Resources

When Will Democrats Learn to Say No? by Adam Jentleson in the New York Times

The End of the Obama Coalition - Michael Lind on The Ezra Klein Show

The New Class War: Saving Democracy from the Managerial Elite” by Michael Lind

Ezra Klein on Where Democrats Go From Here - Pod Save America 

Our Common Purpose: Reinventing American Democracy for the 21st Century

American Academy of Arts and Sciences

Brennan Center for Justice

Dēmos

Eric Liu on Revitalizing Faith in American Democracy - The Giving Done Right Podcast

Citizen University

Habits of the Heart and Mind: How to Fortify Civic Culture

Trust for Civic Life

Father-daughter duo Mike Bontrager and Stephanie Almanza join Phil and Grace to share their approach to building both for-profit and nonprofit ventures in their local community that are rooted in trust, partnership, and shared goals. Mike offers insight into how he found success in the financial industry by putting trust ahead of profit and how that principle has informed his philanthropic and entrepreneurial ventures in his hometown of Kennett Square, Pennsylvania. The two also discuss how they chose to invest locally and the way they work in partnership with other community nonprofits, city government, and their neighbors to help build a thriving community.


Additional Resources

Square Roots Collective

Voices Underground Project

Praxis Labs

The War Before the War: Fugitive Slaves and the Struggle for America’s Soul From the Revolution to the Civil War by Andrew Delbanco

The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America by Richard Rothstein

How the Word is Passed: A Reckoning with the History of Slavery Across America by Clint Smith

What can donors do to address the seemingly intractable problem of homelessness? Susan Thomas, president of the Melville Charitable Trust, joins Phil and Grace to discuss the systems and barriers in place in the U.S. that result in well over a half million unhoused Americans. Susan draws on her own personal and familial story as well as decades of experience, arguing that homelessness and structural racism are intrinsically linked, both historically and today.


Additional Resources

Melville Charitable Trust

The Color of Law: A Forgotten History of How Our Government Segregated America by Richard Rothstein

The Color of Money: Black Banks and the Racial Wealth Gap by Mehrsa Baradaran

The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together by Heather McGhee

Listen to “Heather McGhee on the Zero Sum Lie” on the Giving Done Right podcast

Phil and Grace invite their CEP colleagues Elisha Smith Arrillaga and Kevin Bolduc to the recording studio for a candid and lively conversation that covers nonprofit-donor relationships, big gifts, trust in philanthropy, and the challenges facing nonprofits right now. The four bring their considerable collective experience and CEP’s data-based insights to bear on crucial questions like how donors can best support the causes they believe in, what everyday donors can learn from MacKenzie Scott’s approach to giving, how to think about trust in donor-nonprofit relationships, how to be an effective nonprofit board member, and more. For donors looking to embrace nuance and up their giving ‘game,’ this episode is a must-listen.


Additional Resources

State of Nonprofits 2024: What Funders Need to Know

CEP’s research on the impact of MacKenzie Scott’s giving: “Giving Big: The Impacts of Large, Unrestricted Gifts on Nonprofits” and “Emerging Impacts: The Effects of MacKenzie Scott’s Large, Unrestricted Gifts

More CEP research

Trust-Based Philanthropy Project

Candid’s insights on nonprofit leadership demographics

Resources on board effectiveness from BoardSource

CEP’s Grantee Perception Report and other assessments

Nearly everyone will age or be in a caregiving role for aging relatives at some point in their life, yet relatively few major donors or foundations make aging an explicit priority. In this episode, Phil and Grace discuss the importance of enabling everyone to age with dignity with Ramsey Alwin, president and CEO of the National Council on Aging, and Chad Federwitz, manager of Pitkin County Senior Services in Aspen, Colorado. Ramsey and Chad offer insight into the numerous opportunities for donors to support aging programs, from research and advocacy to local community efforts and discuss the vital role that senior centers and community programs play. 


Additional Resources

National Council on Aging (NCOA)

Grantmakers in Aging

Information on the Older Americans Act for advocates

Eldercare Locator - find services for older adults and their families

What role do leaders play in the success of nonprofits and how can donors better support effective nonprofit leaders? Phil and Grace chat with Yolanda Coentro, president and CEO of the Institute for Nonprofit Practice about her own journey to leadership and the unique set of challenges that nonprofit leaders face. They also discuss funding dynamics that prioritize programs over people, burnout, and the role of identity as a leader.


Additional Resources

Institute for Nonprofit Practice (INP)

The House on Mango Street by Sandra Cisneros

Fund the People

CEP’s State of Nonprofits 2024: What Funders Need to Know

Find CEP’s reports on grantmaker responses to the COVID-19 pandemic and greater focus on racial equity here

Trust-Based Philanthropy Project

What happens when you give cash to those in need? In this episode, Phil and Grace discuss direct cash transfers in conversation with Jesús Gerena, president and CEO of UpTogether. Jesús shares insight into how individuals who receive cash transfers invest in themselves, their families, and their communities. Jesús, Grace, and Phil consider attitudes of paternalism and mistrust of the poor among donors. They also discuss related concepts and ideas such as basic income movements and effective altruism.


Additional Resources

UpTogether

The Urban Institute’s evaluation of the Austin Guaranteed Income Pilot

Center for Guaranteed Income Research at the University of Pennsylvania

GiveDirectly

CEP’s research on the impact of MacKenzie Scott’s giving

Could AI help us tackle intractable social problems and create a more just and equitable world? Vilas Dhar, president and trustee of the Patrick J. McGovern Foundation, believes so. In this episode, Phil and Grace ask Vilas about his vision for how AI can play a pivotal role in promoting equity. Vilas makes the case that now is the time for philanthropy and donors to step in, ensuring that the technology is built ethically. Phil and Grace address many of the fears and hesitations donors may have about AI with Vilas, and learn about the McGovern Foundation’s work to equip nonprofits with AI tools to magnify their impact.


Additional Resources

Patrick J McGovern Foundation

Vilas Dhar on the CEP blog: Consumers to Creators: Philanthropy and Nonprofits Can Build AI for Impact

How can donors support a revitalization of civic engagement and a renewed commitment to democratic citizenship? Eric Liu, co-founder CEO of Citizen University, joins Phil and Grace to discuss the crisis in civic faith, our individual power to effect positive change in our communities, and the importance of supporting literacy in power. He also exhorts donors to recognize that democracy and citizenship go beyond electoral politics, addresses the difficult question of when to engage in bridging and when it may be unproductive, and speaks to the importance of inviting youth into the conversation.


Additional Resources

Citizen University

You’re More Powerful Than You Think: A Citizen’s Guide to Making Change Happen by Eric Liu

Whitney Kimball Coe, Director of National Programs, Center for Rural Strategies, The Aspen Institute 

Report: Our Common Purpose: Reinventing American Democracy for the 21st Century

Report: Youth Civic Empowerment: Insights from the Student Experience

Report: Habits of Heart and Mind: How to Fortify Civic Culture

Long Family Foundation Executive Director Vivian Long joins Phil and Grace to discuss her family’s approach to giving together, navigating intergenerational philanthropic priorities, and the long-term commitment from funders that true transformation requires. Vivian also addresses the Long Family Foundation’s approach to building close relationships with grantees and their focus on the “how” of giving. She also shares her family’s story of humble beginnings and her own path to leadership at the family foundation, and the surprises that came with it. 


Additional Resources

The Long Family Foundation

CEP’s Overlooked reports on the experience of AAPI nonprofit leaders and Native American nonprofit leaders with funders: Overlooked, Part One and Overlooked, Part Two

The Science of Productive Conflict | WorkLife with Adam Grant

Starfish Project