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These Dramatic Days: A Tw-drama and K-drama Podcast
These Dramatic Days: A Tw-drama and K-drama Podcast

These Dramatic Days: A Tw-drama and K-drama Podcast

Talking Korean dramas (K-dramas) and Taiwanese (Tw-dramas)! Join me for smart chats about all things drama related including actors, romance, themes, social issues, cinematography, filming locations, popular culture and books & films that dramas reference. Fluent in Mandarin and learning Korean, I also translate some of the interviews and explain Taiwanese and Korean cultures :)

Available Episodes 10

Today Jen introduces her first 'Watch List' episode where she talks about all the dramas she's currently watching. We talk about why 'When the Phone Rings' is such a Wattpad coded drama and look at why the romance characters in this drama are so popular. Next, we talk about 'The Trunk' and why it's a bit alienating for a Kdrama. We also discuss why 'Brewing Love' is such a positive series for promoting empathy. Finally, we throw back to the 2017 series, 'Mad Dog' and talk about why it's such a timeless action, investigation series. Finally we finish off with Jen's recently watched list and her upcoming watch list.


Opening and closing song credits: Massobeats - Lush https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyQdjwNFTuI


My Current Watch List and time jumps:

When the Phone Rings 3:35

The Trunk 18:43

Brewing Love 27:58

Mad Dog 36:53


My Watched List & Future Watch List and times jumps:

Watched List: The Judge from Hell, Love in the Big City & What Comes After Love 42:21

Future Watch List: Light Shop, Squid Game 2 & The Wife of a 21st Century Prince 43:13


Podcast Notes (Things I mentioned to check out):

-When the Phone Rings Translated Web novel: https://moonlightnovel.com/novels/when-the-phone-rings/


Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: These Dramatic Days Podcast

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: thesedramaticdays 

Ever want to go on a roadtrip with your ex and fall in love again before it's too late? Today Jen talks about the heartwarming and heartbreaking drama, Mr Plankton. We discuss Hae Jo's bad boy trope and Jae Mi's quirky outcast trope. We remember the beautiful love story between Hae Jo and Jae Mi and disect the secret behind John Na's character. Jen also explains the complicated dynamics between Hae Jo and his father, who fans of Mr Plankton call "Darth Vader Daddy." Lastly, we talk about why this sad ending was so beautiful and so perfectly well done.


Podcast Notes (Things I mentioned to check out):

-Woo Do Hwan and Lee Yoo Mi's Chemistry in a short staring video: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DCJKs_JyiPl/?hl=en

-Woo Do Hwan and Lee Yoo Mi's Chemistry in Mr Plankton's Behind the Scenes Netflix video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYmapRZ72uk

-Interview with Woo Do Hwan about the Ad Lib ending (Use Google translate for English): https://adenews.imbc.com/M/Detail/437587


Dramas/ Films that remind me of Mr Plankton for further watching:

-Uncontrollably Fond [Korean Drama]

-Life is Beautiful [Korean Film]

-Move to Heaven [Korean Drama]

-1 Litre of Tears [Japanese Dramas]

-Starlight [Taiwanese Drama]


Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: These Dramatic Days Podcast

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas

Was 2023 a good K-Drama Year for you? What were your favourite and least favourite dramas? Today I talk about 23 K-Dramas I watched in 2023, discussing highlights for the year and critiquing K-dramas that could have been improved in some way. Listen as I discuss some of the biggest K-dramas for 2023 including Castaway Diva, The Good Bad Mother, Bloodhounds, Death's Game, The Uncanny Counter 2 and many more...

In this episode, let's chat about these dramas (time stamps included):

1. 2:37 Alchemy of Souls 2

2. 9:06 Unlock the Boss

3. 11:54 Crash course in Romance

4. 15:25 Call It Love

5. 19:17 The Good Bad Mother

6. 23:07 Delivery man

7. 27:31 Black Knight

8. 31:37 Heartbeat

9. 33:52 Bloodhounds

10. 42:24 A Time called You

11. 47:56 Destined with You

12. 56:20 Castaway Diva

14. 1:04:00 Death's Game

15. 1:08:36 Strong Woman Nam Soon

16. 1:19:43 Soundtrack 2

17. 1:23:03 Taxi Driver 2

18. 1:31:19 The Uncanny counter 2

19. 1:42:09 D.P 2

20. 1:48:38 My Mister

21. 1:55:38 Where Stars Land

22. 1:58:15 Heavenly Idol

23. 2:01:20 Moving

24. 2:06:37 At the Moment


Chat with me about Dramas:

These Dramatic Days for subbed Rainless Love in a Godless Land Behind the Scenes videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas


Other Korean dramas mentioned in passing in this episode:

Weightlifting Fairy

Madame Antoine: Love Therapist

Reply 1988

Twenty Five Twenty One

Extraordinary Woo Young Woo

Goblin

Pachinko

Kingdom

Strong Woman Do Bong Soon

Happiness

Coffee Prince

Alchemy of Souls S1

Taxi Driver s1

The Uncanny Counter s1

Squid Game s1

All of Us are Dead s1

Soundtrack s1

D.P s1


Other Korean moves mentioned in passing in this episode:

Nowhere Man

Parasite


Other Taiwanese dramas mentioned in passing in this episode:

Someday or One Day

Rock Records in Love


Other American movies mentioned in passing in this episode

Adam's Family

Ever been stranded on a desert island for 15 years?! Today's episode is about Castaway Diva. We'll chat about Park Eun Bin, Chae Jong Hyeop, N. We'll also discuss the hot topic at hand...Who is Ki Ho??? I talk about thee theories I've thought of and heard about. And we discuss why we all love a good mystery. Why do mysteries hook us in when we watch Kdramas? Hope you enjoy the Episode!

Are you hoping to find a love that will make your heartbeat? Would you sleep in a coffin for 100 years to meet them? Today I return to the podcasting world to vent about ending of Heartbeat, a Kdrama with an ending that broke my heart (and not in a good way!). We talk about why the ending sucked (pun intended!) and discuss wha mistakes studios, directors and writers continue to make with Rom Com Endings. We also talk about what makes a good sad ending .I also look at what Heartbeat does right: Subverting vampires stories to be more fun, portraying a strong female lead ad just showing pretty romantic scenes. Lastly we look at how Heartbeat ranks in terms of the vampire Kdramas I've (Kinda) seen


In this episode, let's chat about:

1. The interesting plot

2. My new loves - Ok Taecyeon and Won Ji An: Their continuously growing careers and cute chemistry

3. Why this Ending Sucked: An analysis of all the main problems that seem to repeatedly happen in Rom Com K-dramas, specially applied in this Kdrama, Heatbeat:

-Bad Pacing - The story didn't pick up with any of the exciting events and never took off, the world of the vampires was too small and budgeted, the storyline dragged with unncessary subplots

-Draggy Subplots - All the subplots about the guesthouse customers, the second leads' self centred plots, the neighbour's redevelopment plans and the vampire friends' search for missing gold really held back the main plot.

-Noble Idiocy - The main character, Seon Woo Hyeol, continued to perform acts of noble idiocy, which did not make sense and lead to overdramatic events,

-Illogical Events - Some of the character's actions and revalations in the drama didn't make as much sense as they should have.

But we also talk about why Heartbeat had it's beautiful moments: how it made a good discussion of morality, how ti subverted vampire stereotypes and made the vampire world more inclusive, how it showed beautiful romantic scenes and how it portrayed a strong female lead who called out bad behaviour!

4. Vampire Kdramas - It turns out that I haven't finished as many Kdramas as I thought relating to vampires! Nevertheless, I talk about some titles I've watched, have Kinda watched and will watch in the future.


Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: Life in Colour for Drama Commentary, Theories & Explainations

These Dramatic Days for subbed Rainless Love in a Godless Land Behind the Scenes videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas


Other related dramas and films mentioned in this episode:

- Bite Sisters [Korean Drama]

- Scholar who Walks in the Night [Korean Drama]

- Blood [Korean Drama]

- Orange Marmalade [Korean Drama]

- Vampire Flower [Korean Drama]


Other dramas mentioned in passing in this episode:

-Weighlifting Fairy [Korean Drama]

-Strong Woman Do Bong Soon [Korean Drama]

-Dodososolalasol [Korean Drama]

-Monthly Home Magazine [Korean Drama]

-Hometown Cha Cha Cha [Korean Drama[

It's been awhile since Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo has ended but do you still find yourself buying whale objects and looking at photos of Park Eun Bin & Kang Tae Oh? This week we talk about the last episodes in Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo, particularly the lovely Episode 16. We also look in depth at the angst that fans have faced with 'shipping' the main couple 'TaeBin' in this drama. Finally, we talk about the possibility of a season 2.

In this episode, let's chat about:

1.The rough penultimate episodes as well as the beautiful ending that unfolded in episode 16. I talk about the rough ride into the last episode including fan criticisms about pacing and character inconsistencies. But ultimately, we talk about what makes a good K-Drama ending and look at why the ending of Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo was so satisfying and loved by all. Subtopics discussed include how:

-The last episode had great pacing and didn't feel rushed even though it introduced a new relatively important character.

-Closure given to Woo Young Woo's relationship with her mother

-The Kdrama avoided bad tropes including time jumps and the '5 minutes of happiness' ending where the reuinon of the main characters are left to the last 5 minutes of the final episode. Instead, Woo Young Woo and Jun Ho was given a beautiful solution to reunite them.

-The unpopular second lead romance was only implied rather than explicit

-The more villainous characters were shown to have their own growth and none of them turned out to be too bad in the end.

-Young Woo's growth remained the central focus of the story

We also talk about a little bit about the legal cases and how they reflected a lot of realities about the law and the legal system in real life. We look at some of the discussions about social commentary, ethics and about experiences on the spectrum that these cases highlighted.

2.Defining Shipping culture & Comforting Taebin fans who are anxious and worry that Park Eun Bin or Kang Tae Oh don't get along. We talk about why fans 'ship' their favourite K-drama actors and what the extremes of shipping can mean.

I also present a comforting analysis on why Taebin DO get along and go through and provide context for every single rumour or point of angst that I've heard from anxious fans. Subtopics discussed include:

Selcas

- Not posting a duo only selca doesn't mean that Park Eun bin & Kang Tae Oh dislike each other and posting a selca doesn't prove that they like each other. All it proves is that 2 people enjoy taking photos!

-There are reasons that stars like Park Eun Bin have taken photos with some of her co-stars but not others. For example, stars often take more photos when doing period dramas, the staffers from the agency may encourage the stars to take more photos in certain projects, stars may take more selcas wiith their co-stars if they're promoting a drama that is only considered a romance drama, stars might not promote in such a romantic way if a drama has sensitivites like Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo & some stars might not like taking selcas/selfies.

Behind the Scenes footage

- Park Eun bin and Kang Tae Oh had a more organic type of chemistry in the behind the scenes videos rather than one made for show, Behind the scenes videos also depend on the editing and type of activites shown (ie. the best behind the scenes videos show more scenes of the acotrs playing around between takes rather than just filming the scenes themselves. EAW sometimes focused more on the filming side of things)

-Also the behind the scenes didn'r show all of Park Eun bin and Kang Tae Oh's moments together - the montage of scenes at the start of each behind the scenes video shows there's other moments that they have included a few seconds of, but have not shared entirely in the videos. But you can see how playful they are in other interviews & Swoon games videos.

- In terms of Park Eun Bin's behaviour towards Kang Tae Oh on set, she often had to stay in character, her character was challenging to play so she had to focus and they shot romance scenes at night which was tiring...so it makes sense that she might not have been as hyped up behind the scenes. But Kang Tae Oh matched her moods.

-The genre and length of a drama also determine how the actors might interact in a behind the scenes video.

-No behind the scenes hug = it's probably because they finished filming on different shoots.

-Park Eun Bin and Kang Tae Oh do show their own sense of closeness - Park Eun Bin teases Kang Tae Oh a lot more than she had with her past co-stars. And they have their own moments of tenderness like Park Eun Bin stroking Kang Tae Oh's hand when they have to hold hands.

Interviews, Fan meets, Photoshoots & Ring

-Photoshoots: Unfortunately, Park Eun bin and Kang tae Oh didn't have a photoshoot because of magazines not offering a photoshoot slot in time. And then schedules not aligning.

-Interviews: Park Eun bin choose to call Kang Tae Oh a friend rather than just an actor she worked with which showed a sign of closeness.

-Fan Meets: It's rare for K-dramas to get a fan meet, but Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo got one and we got to see Park Eun Bin and Kang Tae Oh interact live. There were sweet moments between the two with Kang Tae Oh whispering to Park eun Bin etc. And Kang Tae Oh continues to be attentive to Park Eun Bin which shows he's not being frozen out by her, but understand her intentions.In terms of Park Eun Bin's personal fan meet, she didn't turn away from Kang Tae Oh, but from her own acting.

-Ring: Kang Tae Oh says the ring is from his CEO and it would be a term of respect to wear a gift from your boss, In Asian culture, rings are not necessarily a marker of a relationship.

3.The Possibility of a second season for Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo. We talk about why Kdramas rarely have second seasons compared to US shows and look at reasons why Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo might not have a second season including Kang Tae Oh's military enlistment and Park Eun Bin's tiredness from filming as well as reluctance to weaken the storyline. We also talk about what would be better than having a season 2...


Related articles and Interviews:

Agency selcas:

Park Eun Bin's agency CEO has the selcas of Rowoon and Park Eun bin on his instagram, so these are probably agency photos rather than personal sellcas

Interviews where Park Eun Bin talks about wanting to maintain a pure image:

Park Eun Bin Arena interview

Interviews about the challenges of playing Woo Young Woo & Kang Tae Oh and Park Eun Bin's relationship

Park Eun Bin talking about staying in character while filming

Park Eun Bin talks about the challenges regarding her role as Woo young Woo

Park Eun Bin talking about how hard it was to play the role of Woo young Woo (Fan translation)

Kang Tae Oh talking about Park Eun Bin having a hard time filming in Star One magazine (Fan translation)

Kang Tae Oh talking about how well him and Park Eun Bin worked together

Park Eun Bin calling Kang Tae Oh a friend rather than just an actor she worked with (Fan translation)

Kang Tae Oh and Park Eun Bin finished on different scenes:

Kang Tae Oh's last outfit at 2:56 on this video

Kang Tae Oh's possible last scene at 2:19 on this video va. Park Eun bin's last scene at 7:50 on this video

Season 2:

ASTORY CEO controversial interview


Intro and Outro music by: Joseph McDade. If you like his music, please support his Patreon

If you like my content, support me on Patreon & unlock goodies: Coming soon

 

Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: These Dramatic Days Podcast for Drama Commentary, Theories & Explainations

These Dramatic Days for subbed Rainless Love in a Godless Land Behind the Scenes videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas


Other related dramas and films mentioned in this episode:

-The King's Affection [Korean Drama]

-Do You Like Brahms [Korean Drama]

-Run On [Korean Drama]

Other dramas mentioned in passing in this episode:

-Crash Landing on You [Korean Drama]

-Extraordinary You [Korean Drama]

-Hot Stove League [Korean Drama]

-My Liberation Notes [Korean Drama]

-Monthly Home Magazine [Korean Drama]

-Alchemy of Souls [Korean Drama]

-Business Proposal [Korean Drama]

-Today's Webtoon [Korean Drama]

-All of Us are Dead [Korean Drama]

-Squid Game [Korean Drama]

-Kingdom [Korean Drama]

-Rainless Love in a Godless Land [Taiwanese Drama]

Are you obsessed with whales, kimbap and Jun Ho? This week we talk about the highly popular and heart warming series, Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo. I chat about the drama's impact in helping audiences to understand the experiences of those who live with Autism, as well as the joy the series has bought with it's portrayal of healthy romances and dashing, empathetic male leads.

In this episode, let's chat about:

1. The plot of the drama, Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo. We'll introduce the titular character, Woo Young Woo, and talk about the way she's been shaped. I also look at the actress, Park Eun Bin, who plays Woo Young Woo as well as Kang Tae Oh, who plays her love interest Jun Ho.

2. Depicting Autism in K-dramas. We talk about how Extraordinary Woo Young Woo sits within the K-drama literature in showing experiences of those on the Spectrum. We look at why this series is special, how it's helped to generate discussion and awareness about living with Autism as well as some of the points of debate when it comes to accuracy of portrayal etc.

3. The beauty & importance of romance in this series & the popularity of the male lead Jun Ho. Although this drama is predominently a legal drama, I talk about why the romance is so important in showing Woo Young Woo's growth. We also look at why Jun Ho is so popular - how he subverts some stereotypes and portrays postive traits as well as criticisms about him being too perfect without a backstory.

4. The function of side characters. The side characters have such a strong presence in this series. We look at what Myeong Seok, Min Woo, Su Yeon and Geurami's characters do in terms of supporting Woo Young Woo's journey.


Articles and Interviews:

Park Eun Bin chats about how she prepared to play Woo Young Woo

Positive & negative reactions to Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo

American lawyer with autism weighs in on Extraordinary Attorney Woo Young Woo

Reactions from the community


Intro and Outro music by: Joseph McDade. If you like his music, please support his Patreon

If you like my content, support me on Patreon & unlock goodies: Coming soon

 

Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: These Dramatic Days Podcast for Drama Commentary, Theories & Explainations

These Dramatic Days for subbed Rainless Love in a Godless Land Behind the Scenes videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas


Other related dramas and films mentioned in this episode:

-Move to heaven [Korean Drama]

-It's Okay to Not Be Okay [Korean Drama]

-The Good Doctor [Korean Drama]

-The Good Doctor [American TV series]


Other dramas mentioned in passing in this episode:

-Operation Proposal [Korean Drama]

-Hello my Twenties! [Korean Drama]

-The King's Affection [Korean Drama]

-Do You Like Brahms [Korean Drama]

-Hot Stove League [Korean Drama]

-Run On [Korean Drama]

-Doom at Your Service [Korean Drama]

-My First First Love [Korean Drama]

-Tale of Nokdu [Korean Drama]

-My Liberation Notes [Korean Drama]

-Doldolsolollalasol [Korean Drama]

-2521 [Korean Drama]

You fall into a coma after rescuing a man trying to jump off a bridge and wake up to find yourself joining a team of Grim Reapers who save people's lives...That's right, this week we talk about the bittersweet drama, Tomorrow and look at all the tragic stories of each episode

Trigger Warning: This podcast episode will focus on a number of distressing topics including suicide, sexual violence, bullying and death. If you find these topics distressing, you may want to consider giving this episode a miss.

Resources if you or someone else needs support:

Lifeline in Australia: 13-11-14

Lifeline in Korea: 1588-9191

National Suicide Prevention Lifeline in USA: 1-800-273-8255


In this episode, let's chat about:

1. The plot of the drama, Tomorrow, & the interesting cast including Rowoon (who plays Choi Jun Woong) , Kim Hee Sun (who plays Koo Ryeon), Yun Ji On (who plays Lim Ryung Gu) and Lee Soo Hyuk (who plays Park Joong Gil).

2. Episodic dramas & Fantasy dramas. I talk about why Episodic dramas have the power to explore our human experiences. We also look at Grim Reapers, especially the world building of the Afterlife in this drama.

3. Why people end up going down dark paths. I look at all the reasons explored in the drama that contribute to suicide and discuss how they are portrayed in the drama. Issues include:

-Bullying

-Depression, failures & poverty

-Bad luck & death of loved ones

-Feeling like life is meaningless & making mistakes that can't be changed

-Not meeting societal expectations or pressures & eating disorders

-Feeling like a burden to others

-Guilt, trauma & sexual violence

-Isolation & burnout

4. The dramas realistic portrayal of sexual violence & victim blaming. I talk about how the drama does a good job of depicting some realistic negative experiences that victims of sexual violence often have to suffer through.

5. Criticisms of the show. I talk about how the show doesn't quite provide actionable solutions to the issues discussed and sometimes resolves issues a little too easily.

6. Ryeon & Joong Gil's Romance & The Ending. Closing off the episode with a discussion about the tragic story involving these 2 characters and looking at why the ending of the drama is quite pleasant.


Intro and Outro music by: Joseph McDade. If you like his music, please support his Patreon

If you like my content, support me on Patreon & unlock goodies: Coming soon

 

Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: These Dramatic Days Podcast for Drama Commentary, Theories & Explainations

These Dramatic Days for subbed Rainless Love in a Godless Land Behind the Scenes videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas


Other related dramas and films mentioned in this episode:

-Move to heaven [Korean Drama]

-Hotel Del Luna [Korean Drama]

-Sell Your Haunted House [Korean Drama]

-The Witch's Diner [Korean Drama]

-Taxi Driver [Korean Drama]

-Harry Potter [American Films]

-Inception [American Film]

-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind [American Film]


Other dramas mentioned in passing in this episode:

-Extraordinary You [Korean Drama]

-She Would Never Know [Korean Drama]

-The King's Affection [Korean Drama]

-Monthly Home Magazine [Korean Drama]

-You are my Spring [Korean Drama]

-Jirisan [Korean Drama]

-Doom at Your Service [Korean Drama]

-Scholar who Walks in the Night [Korean Drama]

The year you turn 21, you start to drift away from your boyfriend and everything changes forever. This episode we talk about THAT ending for Twenty Five Twenty One. Were you upset by the ending? Did you think that the ending was too sad or unrealistic or too much of an open ending? While I would have have LOVED a conventionally happy conclusion to the story, I've given the ending a lot of thought and I think it's painfully beautiful and realistic. In this episode, we look at all the critcisms that people had about the ending and talk about why it's not necessarily as sad or unrealistic or open-ended as some would argue it is. We talk about ways to understand & make peace with the ending as we say good bye to this series.

In this episode, let's chat about:

1. Details of the final episode and THAT ENDING - We do have to go through all the details (sorry for reliving the pain again!)

2. All the criticsms people have about the ending and why it's not as bad as we might have thought. Criticisms I address include:

-The ending was too sad or too bittersweet

-What's the point of watching a story where the 2 main leads don't end up together?

-All dramas should have Happy Endings!

-Yi Jin has an unhappy future

-Hee Do has an unhappy future

-The ending was unrealistic

-How could Yoo Rim and Ji Woong survive a long-distance seperation for many years while Hee Do and Yi Jin could not?

-The ending was an open ending

-What's the point of a drama if you don't find out who Hee Do's husband/ Min Chae's father is?

-The ending was rushed and there was no time to address a lot of 'clues' throughout the drama

3. Getting closure on the so-called clues & Finding comfort after watching the series. Clues we address and discuss:

-Hee Do's Photo

-Yi Jin's things at Hee Do's home

-Hee Do and her mother's hospital scene

-Yi Jin's dad saying he was a great consolation 10 years ago

-Hee Do's reaction when her mother says she met Yi Jin

-Hee Do naming her workplace 2521 and having rainbow chairs

-Hee do & Yi Jin's interview and the 'Appa' soundbite

4. The Beautiful Scenes. We talk about the beauty of Seung Wan standing up for her values against abusive teachers, Yoo Rim and Ji Woong's relationship processing towards a happy ending and both the dreamy kisses between Hee Do and Yi Jin, epsecially the one in the snow!


Photos of Heedo's Husband & Baby Min Chae

Photos of the scene that was cut out of Twenty Five Twenty One


Other Analysis about the Ending:

Jane's tweet about importance of remembering in Twenty Five Twenty One

Oh our past selves, the selves we thought eternal!

Raia's Tweet rant listing all the so-called unresolved clues in Twenty Five Twenty One


Intro music by: Joseph McDade. If you like his music, please support his Patreon

If you like my content, support me on Patreon & unlock goodies: Coming soon


Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: These Dramatic Days Podcast for Drama Commentary, Theories & Explainations

These Dramatic Days for subbed videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean Dramas


Other related dramas and films mentioned in this episode:

-Monthly Home Magazine [Korean drama]

-Reply 1988 [Korean drama]

-Lala Land [American Film]

The year is 1998 and you're starting to get a crush on the guy who's always there for you...But you're so jealous of all his ex-girlfriends! This week we're talking about Twenty Five Twenty One again! This drama is so beautiful in terms of the slow burn romances and so meaningful in terms the resilience we see being exercised in the face of adversity that we want to look more closely at all these themes and ideas.

In this episode, let's chat about:

1. Refreshing our memories on Episodes 5-8.

2. Romance. We look at the slow-burn development of the romance between Hee Do and Yi Jin. Although the two aren't in a romance yet, the show plays on the emotional elements of romance and uses cinematography and music to create certain romantic moods that emphasise the deep connection between the two main characters. We also talk about the romance between the second pair as well.

3. Resilience. Hee Do is such a determined character and has such a positive attitude that we could all learn something from her. We talk about the difference between Min Chae's fixed mindset and her mother, Hee Do's growth mindset. And we also talk about how Hee do's dad helped her to get grit, while everyone gave pressure and insecurity to Yu Rim.

4. Reviewing the sports drama genre. Sports dramas were not my favourite growing up and I was always confused about who they were made for. We talk about why they're worth watching and the main themes or ideas of sports dramas.

5. Revealing drama locations. I reveal a number of filming locations we've found for Twenty Five Twenty One including places like Hee Do's and Yi Jin's houses! Make a list of places to visit on your new Korean holiday.


Intro music by: Joseph McDade. If you like his music, please support his Patreon

If you like my content, support me on Patreon & unlock goodies: Coming soon


Filming Locations mentioned:

-Hee Do's house as well as street Yi Jin cycles on

-Comic Book store where Yi Jin works

-Tunnel where Hee do and Yi Jin run to after playing with the taps

-Restaurant where Hee Do celebrate with her coach

-Yi Jin's house

-Park where Hee do and Yu Rim are meant to meet as chat room friends


Chat with me about Dramas:

Youtube: Life in Colour for Drama Commentary, Theories & Explainations

These Dramatic Days for subbed Rainless Love in a Godless Land Behind the Scenes videos

Twitter: Thsdramaticdays

Forum: @JenL on Janghaven

Instagram: These.Dramatic.Days for Taiwanese Dramas

thesedramaticdays for Korean dramas


Other related dramas and films mentioned in this episode:

Sports Dramas

-Weightlifting Fairy Kim Bok Joo [Korean drama]

-Racket Boys [Korean drama]

-Hot Stove League [Korean drama]

-Fight my way [Korean drama]


Other dramas and films mentioned in passing in this episode:

-Harry Potter [British Films]

-Our Beloved Summer [Korean Drama]

-Taxi Driver [Korean Drama]

-Do do sol sol la la sol [Korean Drama]